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Fake tech support call scam – supportonclick, systemrecure and logmein123.com

January 18th, 2009

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Are you on a call with “tech support” from supportonclick, systemrecure and logmein123.com while reading this?

PLEASE TRY AND RECORD THE CALL, then contact me. Tell them you need to go to another phone if you need a moment to set up a mic.

DO NOT let them take control of your computer, but please try and get as much info as you can.

HUGE thanks and respec to youtube user striderzer0 for his great work in recording the call. See the four youtube videos below.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=ACD9A8922BBBFE4C

UPDATE: 13/01/2009 – Donal Macintyre covered this on ITV’s This Morning show. Watch it here.

Update: 04/12/2009 Made it into the news! Thanks to Malc for this one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/isle_of_man/8392303.stm and via Google News Alerts: http://www.buteman.co.uk/news/Rothesay-businessman-warns-of-computer.5883193.jp

Update: 26/11/2009

Since I first reported on this on Jan 18th 2009, this one page has had over 24,000 views and 261 comments, and recently there’s been a huge surge in the amount of calls received. I’m getting two or 3 people leaving comments every day now, and over the last week, the page views have surged to close to 400 PER DAY and easily accounts for the most viewed page on my blog by far.
Which suggests that Comantra or Supportonclick or Logmein123 or whoever they are calling themselves this week, are increasing their activity.

YOU CAN HELP!

Please, contact the media and/or help spread the word. It’ll only take 5 minutes.

If you are in the UK:

Tell a consumer programme about it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/youandyours/liz_barclay_consumer_series.shtml
or perhaps your local or national paper. Oddly, in the April the BBC said there “wasn’t any interest” in this story. Take a moment to prove there is!

Also, report it to: https://secure.consumerdirect.gov.uk/reportascam.aspx

There are also threads on http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1613667 and
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/502631/call-from-microsoft-maintenance-dep

The Register have an article about it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/10/supportonclick_scareware_scam/

Note: The Staffordshire Police have also issued a warning about this:
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3ECA6489-52AC-4A64-A48E-4E44743CB9CB/90090/TelephoneComputerSupportWarning.pdf

In the US:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22222049-Scam-Supportonclickcom-scareware-scam

In Australia:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1057308.html

Worldwide

Anywhere in the world:
You can help people find news about the scam by stumbling or digging:
http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.digitaltoast.co.uk/fake-tech-support-call-scam-prefetch-virus-logmein123com
http://digg.com/security/Fake_tech_support_call_scam_prefetch_virus_logmein123_com
Or log the info at http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/01274900834

Even if you just post a link to my site on your blog, or in your favourite forum, it will help ensure that people looking for help, find it.

Other blogs referencing this:

http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/12/techonsupportcom-click4rescuecom.html – has some more info, as well as other ways of reporting the scam.

http://ctaspley.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/update-on-support-on-click-police-alert-to-scam/

From the comments below, it appears that logmein123.com is not the scam itself, but is being used by the scammers. Thanks to Michael in the comments section below for that info. If you have found this post useful, please use the “share this” link below if you have a social networking account such as digg, delicious, facebook, stumbleupon etc. It will help others to find this.

Update: We have a new caller! Many many thanks to Sherri for sending in a recording from her answering machine. I think this is a difference outfit, but it sounds scammy:

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And McCaffee Siteadvisor has many aggrieved reviewers of the Support OnClick scammers too!

So, possibly post there too – anything to warn people.

See also threads here and here on MoneySavingExpert and a post on the JamiesRants blog

I got a call on the 16th of January with an “out of area” (ie: overseas, not “uk withheld”) caller ID.

He had a thick strong accent and started off by saying:
“Hello Mr Marshall, this is the Windows XP service provider – we have had a report from your computer that it is infected”. Well, that’s not my name, but one I use on forms where I think spam might result.

At this point, I started recording the call – the only problem is that the recording is illegible! I’m trying to clean it up so will post as soon as I do – check back later!

HELP! Does anyone know how to “clean up” bad recordings? Here’s a snippet of what I recorded – I still have the “original” file in audacity, and have tried changing sample rates. Is this recording lost forever?

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I was also noting it down, and here’s what he told me to do:

Go to the start>run menu and type in

“p as in peter, r as in romeo, e as in echo, f as in foxtrot” – etc etc, to cut a long story short, he wanted me to type in

“prefetch virus” in the run prompt. As it happens, I know exactly what that would do – it simply opens the windows prefetch folder. The word “virus” is ignored

(For a bit more info on what this normal windows folder is, click here. As a rule, however, unless you know exactly what the result is going to be do not start following instructions random strangers tell you to do!)

“OK sir, can you please tell me how many files there are?”
I told him 30.
“Oh my gosh, this is a sign of very heavy infection. You must not touch these files. [about the only truthful part of the call]. Please now clear this box and type ‘temp’ and press enter”.

Again, “your computer has very heavy infection with so many files”. He then babbled some crap about how these file were your f-a-t32 system files and that “at any time these files could scratch your hard drive”. Riiiighhhht…..

Then came the money shot. “We will connect you now with an agent, please go to www.logmein123.com”
As I had full armoury on (google toolbar, avg, running Chrome etc), so I decided to check it out. It redirected to https://secure.logmeinrescue.com/Customer/Code.aspx

After some chitchat in which he confirmed my (incorrect, spamtrap) home address, he then said “I will now connect you to an agent – for this there is just a small one-time charge of £12″.
Before I let him take my details, I said I wanted to check what company it was. Again, he said it was “your Windows XP service provider” (whatever the hell that means).
To the answer “where are you based and what is your name”, bear in mind this man had a VERY thick/strong Indian accent and was calling from a scratchy overseas number.
“My name is Kevin Watts and we are based in Bradford”. Gold-dust! You couldn’t make it up! (Well, he obviously had).

I asked him to hold while I got my card. I put it on speakerphone and went down to make a cup of tea. I brewed up a nice cup of Yorkshire Tea, found a biscuit, did a bit of washing up, and went back upstairs. FIVE MINUTES later he was still going “Mr Marshall? Can you hear me?”. Nothing if not persistant! I then just decided to have a bit of fun and pretended he’d been put through to the UK police! Immediately, a supervisor (another strong Indian accent) came on the line sounding very surprised, and claimed that “Mr Marshall contacted us”!

So there you go – be warned. If I can get the audio up, I will.  Please post a comment below if you’ve had this call.

PS – it didn’t sound much different to this!

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CISAS survey fail.

March 10th, 2010

I received an envelope with a yellow form to fill in. Along with the following letter:

CISAS Customer Satisfaction Survey 2009
As part of our promise to constantly review and improve the CISAS service, we undertake regular surveys of customers.
We invite you to take part in this survey by completing the enclosed electronic questionnaire, which takes around ten minutes to complete.
When you have completed the questionnaire you can return it to the independent company
who will analyse the results, by emailing it to [hidden] or by post using the pre-paid envelope enclosed. The results will be published in our annual report for 2009 together
with the results from surveys earlier that year.
We thank you for taking the time to read this message and for completing the questionnaire.
Your views will help us to shape the future service delivery and will provide feedback to  consumer groups, the industry regulator, and to the member companies.
This is from the COMMUNICATIONS and Internet Services Adjudication Scheme.

Wibbling moron David Nutt sacked as government advisor.

October 30th, 2009

Nutt is clearly a candidate for some of the worst “bad science” of the year, and blatant statistic mangling.

I wouldn’t trust a word this kook spouted – he sounds like a complete wibbling loon candidate for mistruth, and I quote: “David Nutt claimed the risk of taking ecstasy was no worse than riding a horse”.

And so I embarked earlier on today hunting down the relative statistics.

And I looked and looked and looked. I looked at drugs blogs, politics blogs, science blogs, news reports.

All I could find were people asking for the figures. The best I could get was “I think he said it because one year 10 people died in horse accidents and 10 people died taking ecstasy”.

Please tell me the moronic dickhead didn’t really use that? How many people ride horses?! Actually, I can tell you – from the BHA website: 2,400,000 people regularly ride. From Highbeam: 730,000 people regularly take ecstasy

Turns out the lying wibbling bad science kook is actually comparing numbers, not statistics. The sort of crap the Labour government would happily spout at what they assume was a gullible electorate. Surprised they didn’t promote him.

Even if it actually was a truthful figure, riding a horse gives a feeling of wellbeing, provides good exercise, is highly social, teaches you several skills, and cantering full pelt across a mountain top is a pretty good natural high.

Whereas taking E just makes you an annoying twat for a couple of hours.

Personally, I think Nutt’s been at the hallucinogenics again!

Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

October 9th, 2009

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm

US President Barack Obama has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

The Nobel Committee said he was awarded it for “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”.

The committee highlighted Mr Obama’s efforts to strengthen international bodies and promote nuclear disarmament.

There were a record 205 nominations for this year’s prize. Zimbabwe’s prime minister and a Chinese dissident had been among the favourites.

The laureate – chosen by a five-member committee – wins a gold medal, a diploma and 10m Swedish kronor ($1.4m).

A little bit premature? Perhaps. But to people who say “I can’t believe they gave Obama the Peace Prize”, I say “I can’t believe Fox News gave America George W Bush”. At least some good is coming as a result of the former. And if it annoys racist Republicans, then that’s the icing on the cake.

Carol Thatcher vs Anton Du Beke vs the BBC

October 5th, 2009

January 2009
In a private, un-broadcast comment, BBC co-presenter Carol Thatcher refers to a tennis player as having “hair like a Golliwog”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7871746.stm

She is immediately sacked.

October 2009
Anton Du Beke allegedly called his Moroccan dance partner Laila Rouass a “Paki”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8290733.stm

BBC statement says:

“The BBC does not condone offensive language in the workplace. Anton Du Beke has apologised unreservedly to Laila Rouass who has accepted his apology.”

Personally, I don’t care for either term, but being a grown-up I also really don’t what anyone calls anyone else in private.

HOWEVER, I do think the beeb is in a position of gross hypocrisy over this. Either have a “thought crime” rule, or don’t.

TV Chef James Martin delights in endangering cyclists

September 16th, 2009

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8258247.stm

TV chef James Martin has apologised for causing a group of cyclists “sheer terror” as he test drove a sports car.
Martin, presenter of BBC One’s Saturday Kitchen, wrote in the Mail on Sunday that he had intentionally forced them into a hedge as he turned a corner.
It was the best thing he had “ever seen in my rear-view mirror”, he said.

Join the 2,500 strong (and growing rapidly) Facebook group Why Does James Martin Hate Cyclists?Cock

Not much I can say on this really, other than what a total cock! He should read this blog: Bianchista writes:

To James Martin….
As per your remarks in your now infamous column, i should just like you to look at the below picture of me. Look at it and tell me you still find your comments were appropriate and funny.
A driver pulled out on me recklessly, and as a result i pretty much lost all of my top row of teeth, I had a broken nose, and badly bruised legs and arms.
You see… whilst it may be funny for you to ’scare us’ by beeping your horn or driving at a close vicinity, it wasnt so funny for me to hit the tarmac, it wasnt so funny to be unable to touch solid food and be in considerable pain, and it actually wasnt that funny when i had to see my mum and watch her cry.
So Mr Martin, I should honestly hope that no-one would ever purposefully endanger your children, as a driver did to me. They, and yourself….. might just fail to see the funny side then.

Bianchista

Comet helpline is a complete (meteor) shower.

August 13th, 2009

Well, fat load of good Comet were when I called about watching the Perseids meteor shower.

Call yourselves a comet helpline?

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Damian McBride and The Sleazegate Affair

April 12th, 2009

It tears my creative little heart out to tag the lazy old appendage of “gate” onto any sort of scandal, but as that’s what everyone else is calling it, why struggle for originality?!

Update: Just seen this – hilarious!

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Update 2: Squirmingly embarrassing damage control spin from Derek Draper – as for the comments…sickbag please!

Not much to comment on really that hasn’t already been said, but a few things I couldn’t help but notice. The Labour bloggers and spinmeisters drafted in to “play this down” just didn’t help the cause one little bit. A couple of tactics I saw and heard repeatedly throughout the day were:

“Paul Staines [aka Guido Fawkes] sold this on for a tidy sum” – er, no, he made it clear several times that he didn’t sell the story.

Another “excuse” was that this was “tittle-tattle – a couple of friends pranking about” or (my favourite, this one) “ a few silly ideas”.

To me, there’s a whole world of difference between “a few silly ideas” and a concerted and organized tax-payer funded smear-campaign to lie about inoccent people, or worse still, the wives of your political opponents.

Remember, Damian McBride wasn’t a naive blogger, he was about as close to Gordon Brown as spin doctors get. And the campaign wasn’t even based on facts – the whole point that stinks so badly is that these were totally unfounded allegations based on nothing but the sick, twisted and enfeebled mins of McBride and his chum Derek Draper. Oh, and a website, the red rag, was purchased several months ago. And this was all paid for by the taxpayer. Oh, and there was a timeline of releases, including who should say what and when for maximum damage. But hey, nothing more than a few silly ideas, right?

NuLabour just don’t get it – if the very best you can do is an ad-hominem attack on your opponents, you’ve lost the argument already.

Remember when the Conservative EuroMP Dan Hannan got more views than all of Gordon Browns official videos put together? The best The Guardian could do was call him a toff.
Remember when Labour lauched an attack on Conservative candidate Andrew Timpson? They called him a toff. He won.

And remember another Labour spin doctor, Jo Moore? While thousands were perishing in the inferno on september 11, 2001, she wrote that it would be “a very good day to bury bad news“.

Anyway, a rather untidy collection of links, in case the whole story passed anyone by…

Guido Fawke’s blog
No 10 official quits over e-mails
Blears attacks political bloggers
No 10 ’smear’ messages published

http://theredrag.co.uk/

http://derekdrapersblog.blogspot.com/

http://www.labourlist.org/derek-draper-emails

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7994000/7994609.stm

http://plato-says.blogspot.com/

http://liberalbureaucracy.blogspot.com/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/12/editorial-damian-mcbride-gordon-brown?showallcomments=true

Pipex Homecall Bulldog – customer care billing issues recording

March 20th, 2009

This is really just to log the continuing and ongoing problems with Pipex Bulldog Homecall. I left in Jan 09. They’re still sending me bills, I’ve now got a warning that they may take action which may affect my credit rating.

I have phoned and emailed them several times over the last few months. On Thursday 19/03/09 I started recording the calls for use in court evidence if need be.

You can follow my progress here – note: this is NOT the beginning – this has been going on for months now.

Thursday 19/03/09 3pm

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Friday 20/03/09 09:30am

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