UK Immigration Figures: We’re being lied to.

November 3, 2007 10:46 am

Quelle surprise - we’ve become so used to NuLabor™ lying to us, we’ve almost become immune to it.
First, it was a maximum of 13,000 migrants from Eastern Europe.
Then, they found a few missing hundred thousand. Then it was 800,000. Now it’s 1.1 million.
But this morning, it was OK, because most of the new jobs NuLabor™ had fictioned up had been filled by the British Workforce. But didn’t take someone long to find the lies, and forced the gov to make further admissions:

On Monday, Labour said 800,000 - or 30% - of the 2.7 million jobs created had been taken by migrant workers.
But it later put out a clarification suggesting 52% - or 1.1 million - of new jobs created had gone to migrants.
Then in a further correction, it said the wrong population estimates had been used to calculate the percentage of new jobs taken by migrants.

It’s just lie after lie after lie after lie. These aren’t mistakes, these are dirty rotten lies.
And here are the liers - have a listen:
In the morning…

But by the evening …

I think it’s best summed up on BBC’s Have Your Say

It’s strange how they have no idea how many immigrants are working here yet they “know” exactly how much they contribute to the economy. We’re being lied to.

A few more factoids:

Mass-migration means broken promises, child labour, human trafficking and general misery.

Here’s another one

Immigration is placing increased pressure on services such as schools and hospitals, a report has claimed. The Local Government Association is calling for a £250m-a-year fund to help regions struggling to cope with unexpected influx

Maybe you’d prefer something from The Guardian?

The council leaders of Slough, Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, and Hammersmith and Fulham say the “improved” method of calculating immigration, introduced last month, does not “remotely” represent the true picture on the ground.

Richard Stokes, leader of Slough Borough Council, said poor migration statistics were already leading to severe underfunding.

How about a quote from Workpermit.com, which appear to have a pro-immigration stance - even they can’t square everything:

Statistics from the report show the influx of workers had probably pushed up unemployment by 0.3 percentage points - or roughly a third of the overall increase over that period. It said more than six out of 10 migrants from “New Europe” were in basic-level jobs.

Or this article from MSN Money which tries to be positives, but concludes that

Of course many other things must be factored into the final analysis. Some economists have stated that the new arrivals have forced down wages while forcing up social costs like housing and schooling.

Proper analysis demonstrates the situation is not nearly so clear-cut and that many factors make the exact economic conclusions quite debatable. These must include the levels of crime committed by immigrants; in at least one London prison roughly half the inmates are foreign-born.

Or maybe something from Economics UK?

Bob Rowthorn, emeritus professor of economics at Cambridge, argues that the economic benefits of immigration, to the extent that they exist, are “minor” and “transient”.

In the meantime, he suggests, “the interests of more vulnerable sections of the domestic population may well be damaged, and any economic benefits are unlikely to bear comparison with its substantial impact on population growth”.

It would be good to be able to refute this with proof that the economic benefits of migration are large and overwhelming. So far, however, that proof does not exist.

More bloggage here and here

Discuss!

2 Responses to “UK Immigration Figures: We’re being lied to.”

Rob Fisher wrote a comment on November 6, 2007

Hard working people are a benefit to society. People on welfare are not. Solution: abolish welfare. Leave immigrants alone.

Why immigration figures don’t matter:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2007/10/reductio_ad_abs_1.html

This sort of thinking is just a version of the lump of labour fallacy. More workers doing more things for other people and supporting themselves means everyone is better off, not that others are deprived of something.

Nor - as the error shows - does government need to know who people are and what they are doing in order to carry on with its other activities untroubled. It just needs to respond to provide services as they are required (and self-supporting individuals don’t really require much). The conceit of planning and censuses is undermined here, too. Demand manages itself.

Here is why immigration doesn’t matter:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2007/10/how_the_left_an.html

The claim that immigration puts strain on ‘vital public services’ is a myth. The reality is that immigration only puts ‘pressure’ on the inefficient state sector such as state schools and NHS hospitals. Vital public services provided by the private sector welcome the additional customers. In the vital field of food supply, you don’t hear Tesco complaining that they hadn’t planned on the increased business - we face no food shortages. Neither does Vodafone struggle with the technical demands of providing mobile phones to all these immigrants. Immigration merely highlights the existing failure of the inefficient, unreformed state sector.

Jonathan H wrote a comment on November 6, 2007

Hmmm, but you’re talking about two different things in one sentence.
I’ve quoted from 6 different sources quoting 9 different reports - you’ve quoted from some blog which is, quote

The Samizdata people are a bunch of sinister and heavily armed globalist illuminati who seek to infect the entire world with the values of personal liberty and several property.

They sound like the kind of people who might use the phrase ad hominem just a little too much! It’s all very well to talk about utopian ideals, but I don’t see much talk of crime in those links you posted. When foreign nationals make up 8% of the UK population, but account for 15% of the prison population, how does that square?
How much money do you throw at something to make it work?

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